I am so excited to share this amazing interview with my dear friend Holly Emmer. Holly is really indescribable in any ordinary language. She’s a profoundly sensitive and skillful human being, whose life-experience and nearly ‘impeccable’ (c.f castanada: https://toltecschool.com/toltec-indexes/index-page-6/index-page-6-f)) conduct in relation with the non-ordinary have impressed me deeply. In this conversation we talk briefly about her life-path, training, and perspectives on dreaming, healing, being human and ‘the living library’. We speak together of recovering and exploring some of the skills and abilities that are natural to all human beings, but easily mimicked by trends, ersatz religions, and ‘woo’ culture. Yet the deceptions of culture often hide a seed of authenticity, memory… and recognition.

The Maker Shamans: https://www.shamanscave.com/

Holly’s Drum Circle: https://drumjourneycircle.squarespace.com/